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Scientists start 'big bang machine'
The project hopes to observe a paricle known as a Higgs Boson, or a 'God particle' [AFP]

Scientists in Switzerland have started up a machine designed to accelerate sub-atomic particles to nearly the speed of light and then smash them into each other in a bid to find out how the universe began.

The project began operations on Wednesday, but its critics fear that it could go wrong and create a black hole that would destroy the Earth.

The Large Hadron Collider, housed in a tunnel 100 metres below ground straddling the French-Swiss border, has cost more than $5.4bn and has been almost two decades in the making.

The collider began work at 9.30am local time (0730 GMT) with the first protons injected into the 27km, ring-shaped tunnel at the headquarters of the European Organisation for Nuclear Research (Cern).

Scientists monitoring the collider on computer screens burst into applause when Lyn Evans, the project leader, announced: "We've got a beam on the LHC."

'Big bang'

More than two thousand scientists from around the world have worked on the project which hopes to observe a particle known as a Higgs Boson, or the "God particle", that scientists hope will explain how particles pick up mass.

The big-bang theory



The phrase "big bang" was coined in 1949 by Fred Hoyle, a British scientist.

Hoyle was trying to disparage the then emerging theory, which countered his own "steady state" view - that the universe had always existed and was evolving but was not expanding.

The big-bang theory suggests the universe began as a speck at extremely high temperature and density and rapidly expanded and in doing so cooled.

The Higgs was named after Peter Higgs, a British physicist who devised the theory of its existence in 1964.

Archana Sharma, a physicist with Cern, told Al Jazeera that the experiment could be equated to the discovery of X-rays or electricity.

"We are precisely at that kind of moment in science -something new is going to come about," she said.

"In addition, there are theories - to be technical - that explain the universe on the astronomical scale and their are theories that explain it on a subatomic scale... There is a connection between these two where the origin of mass is explained by a mechanism called the Higgs mechanism. Our primary scientific goal is to find the Higgs."

The collider will send protons in opposite directions along a 27km circuit - the protons will travel the 27km 11,000 times per second - and at four points the protons will intersect and smash together.

Scientists will monitor the collisions and collect data on the particles created by these collisions, which they say will come close to re-enacting the "big bang" - the theory that a colossal explosion created the universe.

The project could also help prove the theory of supersymmetry, a theory in particle physics that suggests every particle has a corresponding partner particle.

The end of the world?

Prior to the launch, the internet was abuzz with rumours that the particle accelerator could create black holes or an as-yet hypothetical particle called a strangelet that would grow and destroy the earth.

A black hole has a gravitational field so powerful that it pulls particles, including light, into itself.

But staff on the project have reject the claims.

"Nothing's going to happen here that's not already happening in nature," Mario Nessi, the projects technical director, said.

Cern says it has commissioned a panel to verify its calculations that such risks are virtually impossible.

 Source: Al Jazeera and agencies
Feedback Number of comments : 112
 
Elliott Bignell
Switzerland
10/09/2008
Scientists start big bang machine
I see the following account of the greatest scientific endeavour of the new century: "Critics fear the experiment could go wrong and destroy the Earth." Critics fear that the experiment might not find the predicted particles and that the Standard Model will fail. Critics think the money could have been better spent. Nutcases fear the experiment could go wrong and destroy the Earth. Please do not accord them so much merit as to imply that their concerns are an important part of this news.

Mahomed Hameed
South Africa
10/09/2008
Big "Bung" machine
These men are trying to prove the non- existance of God.Their big bang theory is 'bung'. The question is: How does the sun rise at exactly the same spot every morning? How are the seas contained on earth without spilling into space for millions of years. Obviously, the scientists have theories on that, but the reality is that they could not live a second if God merely changes the mixture in the air we breathe. Don't try to disprove GOD, and advocate a Godless society please!

Scharad
Norway
10/09/2008
Godless Scientists.
All you people babbling about God in all this need to get out more. No one cares one whit about disproving God and the LHC won't change that. Science progresses regardless of your beliefs, if science shows something you believe to be false you change it and adapt. You always have and always will, the beginning of the universe isn't any different than the flat earth, evolution or earth as the center of the universe. Religion is belief, where belief meets cold hard facts, belief looses.

YT
United States
10/09/2008
Big "Bung" machine?
Mahomed Hameed The Bing Bang is mentioned in the Holy Quran. So how would this experiment discredit the existence of God?

Burhan
Ethiopia
10/09/2008
Fear or Fair
In one hand it is worthy to help the people starving in many parts of the world like Ethiopia than spend such a big money on this, in the other hand I believe it is the failure of such experiments that shows the existence of GOD, it is best to believe before proofs, but for those who couldn't it is an opportunity to start believing in the existence of GOD.

Jogy George
India
10/09/2008
End of Universe?
In the due course of time, and motivated by the strong desire to acquire more knowledge, the search towards Higg's Boson (God's particle) will be continued and a miniature scale Big-Bang may be inevitable. But, are we trying to eat the "Fruit" of the "Tree of Knowledge" as stated in the Genesis of The Bible? http://jogygeorge.cat.googlepages.com/myviews

Hark Luders
Poland
10/09/2008
RE: Mahomed Hameed
Why do you think the Big Bang theory, if proven true, would prove the non-existence of God??? If God exists, and if, at some point in the distant past, He wanted to make a universe, why shouldn't He have done so using a "Big Bang"? One way or the other, the Big Bang doesn't explain the beginning of everything. because the question remains, who or what made the Big Bang happen?

Richard Faith
United Kingdom
10/09/2008
For Mahomed Hameed - part 1
For Mahommed Hameed - > These men are trying to prove the non-existance of God. No, they're trying to understand a natural mechanism - what the religious folks make of that is entirely up to them. While we're on the topic - religious people can't prove the existence of God either - that's why they have "faith" after all. If you knew God existed, you wouldn't need faith. Science won't prove that one way or another.

Richard Faith
United Kingdom
10/09/2008
For Mahomed Hameed - part 4
> Don't try to disprove GOD, and advocate a Godless society please! Lighten up! Its just another experiment. The press have been trying to create a little excitement about it by using the G-word to generate a bit of heat in the general population. Its also scientifically proven that this works.

Bagbane
United States
10/09/2008
This wasnt the first time.
You should read the history of the atomic bomb. Some scientists were takeing side bets that the bomb would actually ignite the atmosphere and kill all life when they were testing it in the 1940's.

m@
Canada
10/09/2008
LHC
So they say they it is next to impossible that something bad will happen? The reality is they have no idea what will happen, otherwise there would be no point in proceeding with this EXPERIMENT! Haven't blackholes and stranglets already been created by nature? "Nothing's going to happen here that's not already happening in nature," Please take care with the unknown and save us. Theories are theories. $5,000,000,000 could have fed alot of mouths and maybe cured a couple nasty diseases.

Stephen Thoahlane
Lesotho
10/09/2008
If something could go wrong with this experiment what could happen to those who are alredy disadvantaged by femine, disability and other human tragedies. instead of wasting $5.4bn on experiment that would not yeild any positve results, rather invest such money towards empowerment and upfiltment of the socially maginalised people of the world. This experiment is only intended to misguide the nations of the eath about the beggining of the universe.

Simon Patrick
Ireland
10/09/2008
Disproving GOD?
I don't understand why religion and science always have to be on a colision course. Don't all religions believe God is an extremely intelligent and complex being who is capable of creating and understanding everything? So, Isn't it at all possible that God created all these physical laws that we are trying to understand? Maybe, knowing that humans are inferior to God, God just worded the holy scriptures in a simplyfied way on purpose. Maybe God even created Evolution? Don't underestimate God!

Anas Hamshari
Kuwait
10/09/2008
Big Bang
I think this is how God will show his wrath to the nonbelievers, and reverse the technology on them and destroy their entire civilization.

Yaotl
Mexico
10/09/2008
Share
I hope Switzerland will share this knowledgment to the whole world.

Elliott Bignell
Switzerland
10/09/2008
Cost
A Nimitz-class aircraft carrier costs about $4.5 billion. If people think money should be better spent they might like to consider cutting spending on military kit first, rather than on the basic science upon which all the benefits of technological society are based.

Patrick
United States
10/09/2008
Not that much money...
To those saying this money should have been spent elsewhere, $5 billion is not that much money. It hardly even registers on the radar of money spent by national governments. The US has already spent 100 times that destroying the Middle East. Sure, I'd love to see $5 billion go toward helping the poor, but there are much less worthy causes from which we should be diverting money, namely so-called "defense" spending.

Kevin
Great Britain (UK)
10/09/2008
For Mahomed Hameed: I'm with you. But no matter how logical people think they are they still won't be able explain our existence. Even if we accept the 'Big Bang' theory for the sake of argument, there is still no account of how it began. Science is indeed useful, but only to a point. What will this experiment actually accomplish? Will it do anything to help humanity, to feed the hungry? Put this way, spending $5.4bn seems quite irresponsible.

anis
Malta
10/09/2008
bigbang machie+ god
listen it doesn't matter what you belive in this project can do man kind good.it can brong the end,and if it don't it will give us some answers to some questions lke what happen after.what started the big bang is a good question that we may never know,but at lest we'll know what happen after so look at the bright side of it.image the technology we can create with this.the things we'll learn..we're not defing god.no it may be written inteh good book but ,its up to us to find our own answers!

asrar
United Kingdom
10/09/2008
Islam is never against science - part 1
The reference to which the Big Bang theory is supported in the Koran is in chapter 21 verse 30:- "Did the unbelievers not realize that the heavens and the earth were one solid mass, then We tore them apart, and We made every living being out of water?" *We - does not indicate plurality but rather displays the highest position in languange (Arabic)

asrar
United Kingdom
10/09/2008
Islam is never against science - part 2
I am a Muslim and i support the advance in science whole-heartedly. This is because believing in science is in tandem to my faith of believing the existence of God. God clearly explains that apart from the revelation of the holy scripture, He wants us look at to the Signs of His creations and its complexity as proofs of His very existence. See chapter 2 verse 164 below

asrar
United Kingdom
10/09/2008
Islam is never against science - part 4
the only remaining question though, will this multi-billion project do any good to serve humanity? i certainly hope it does.

Ricardo
Portugal
10/09/2008
God(s)? Badly-spend money?
As several people already pointed out, these experiments have nothing to do with disproving deities - why disprove what cannot be proven, anyway? As for those complaining about how the money could have been spent on feeding people or finding cures, remember that those $5.4bn are a drop in the ocean when compared to arms sales all around the world - now that is wasted money! Investing on knowledge only hurts those who wish us to remain ignorant.

sami abdussamad
Qatar
10/09/2008
what if
now i see in the article above ... tht if it is gonna be a failure then....... u noe they say curiosity kills a cat????? GOD BE WITH US

Jan Khan
Afghanistan
10/09/2008
The big bang theory continued part 2
the whole universe, in that 'smoke' material. Allah has said in the Qur'an: (Qur'an, 41:11) Because the earth and the heavens above (the sun, the moon, stars, planets, galaxies, etc.) have been formed from this same ’smoke,’ we conclude that the earth and the heavens were one connected entity. Then out of this homogeneous ‘smoke,’ they formed and separated from each other. Allah has said in the Qur’an:

Steven
United States
10/09/2008
Big Bang Machine
I find it quite ironic that a so-called scientist would defend this machine by saying that nothing would happen that's not already happening in nature. Is space no longer a part of nature? Black holes exist there as part of the natural world, right?

max wunsche
Afghanistan
10/09/2008
Big Bang Machine
The Roman Catholic Church, initially would excommunicate anyone who looked through a telescope. Ain't religion grand!

Abdul Raouf
United Arab Emirates
10/09/2008
Nothing to fear
The universe belongs to GOD n nothin can take it away form him. No scientist can prove non existance of GOD. Let them try to prove the Big Bang. GOD mentioned about the big bang in quran 1400 years ago. If the scientists can prove it today, then it would be a greater opportunity for those who dont believe in God to give it another thought. Read what the quran says about Big Bang and u'll b amazed to know the truth. Peace

temsu
India
10/09/2008
if this thoery is proven true, then it would have a BIG BANG impact on all the religious aspects of life.

Eric
United States
10/09/2008
Hadron Collider
Wow, I remember the last time scientist did somthing like this. Now we have the Adom Bomb. Its funny that everybody is talking about God, If you dont BELIEVE in him then why does it bother you so much? Scientist have been trying to figure out God's creations since the beginning of science. And all it does is lead them to more and more science. Is it that hard to BELIEVE? If we Gave God as much thought as we do science, the world would be a better place.

Rafael
United States
10/09/2008
Predetermined Excuse
Maybe this machine had to be built so that the coming events could be explained more easily to the world when they happen. Im talking about the rapture... When a certain number across the globe just vanish in an instant. Science will use this machine as the excuse. Thery will tell us that we were right about it causing something to go wrong. They might say that the people that disappeared and the ones that didnt or left behind was due to the individuals particular cellular vibration.

chris
Sweden
10/09/2008
Fear
I think taht people are adraid that science will one day, by mistake, show that God does not exist. Increased understanding of the universe leaves less places for magic.

shenanigan
United States
10/09/2008
big bang
This is going to "kill the hell out religious belief,if you do not come to their belief if God them the devll going to get you."

Arturo
Afghanistan
10/09/2008
critical thinking on the word God
Religions are a government sanctioned form of mass compartmentalized psychosis that brainwashed parents allow their defensless children to be brainwashed and programed into in order to perpetuate the insanity and fill the collection plate of the greatest feel good scam in human history. If I said I was a reincarnation of Nepolian they'd institutionalize me but if I said I was divine & immortal via an invisible man running the universe that's perfectly O.K.

Kamor
United States
10/09/2008
Big Bang Machine
Scientists are verifying the laws governing the nature of things (signs or ayats of Allah(SWT)) in Allah's created universe. In many places in the Qur,an, Allah (SWT) invites us to investigate, look, see, travel through the earth, etc. Consider the ayat "Do not the unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together (as one unit of creation) before we clove them asunder? We made from water every every living thing. Will they not then believe? Q(21:30). Investigation NOT proof.

Adam
United States
10/09/2008
Reasoning
It is easy to understand why the money is being used how it is. Why do u think Africa and such are being neglected? Its because they are useless to the economics of the developed and developing countries. Why try to fix something that cant be fixed? Instead we could be pouring money into technology and who knows. Maybe after this experiment the next experiment could be space travel. And every would rather spend money researching that than burning money. dont hate me, hate society

GK Cheese
Canada
10/09/2008
Big Bang
Religion ought not to be any consideration here. After all, it was Roman Catholic priest Father Georges Lemaitre who proposed what became known as the Big Bang theory of the origin of the Universe, although he called it his "hypothesis of the primeval atom".

Ella
United Kingdom
10/09/2008
Bing bang machine
I see this experiment as dangerous even if it doesn't send the world into a black hole. Isn't conquering nature enough for man, that he must go on and conquer matter as well. Were the people of this world consulted as to whether we wanted this money, which could have been put to much better use, spent on this experiment? In what way will the outcomes of the experiment serve us? more powerful weapons of mass destruction?

anonomys
United States
10/09/2008
big bang machine
Iv'e read all the other feedback letters displayed and i say that this hoopla's got to end, the machine's money could have been spent better yes, but such a scientific and engineering feat is pretty important. But i dont completely think it's disproving GOD but, this seems dangerous so if anything i believe this project should stop. I only have to say so much else, but it's gotta end, NOW.

Bobby Burner
Norway
10/09/2008
end of submission and opium
hopefully these type of by-religious-forbidden questionings/experiments/thinkings will get us where the mullahs have no be able to do so. one day we will by thinking/experimenting end submission and opium for the people. and all the mullahs/imams/priests/shamans/clergies/sheykhs/mawlawis/bishops/cardinals/mohabs/vicars/brahmins/munks/rabbi and last but not least THE POPE will be out of job :-) lets continue challenging the opium and the submission.

anonomys
United States
10/09/2008
big bang machine
Ok, the machine sounds a little dangerous you have to admit, I mean protons speeding at eachother and smacking into one another at almost light speed, that really has to make you jump or something right? The scientists working on this should at least find some kind of "invinsible material" in case, GOD forbid, any little anything happens except for the experiment being A- O.K. and all goes perfectly well.

Marc
Germany
10/09/2008
Knowledge is more important than money
Think how much money is used in needless things such as military budgets. USA spends >400 billion $, every citizen could get health insurance. Basic research is necessary if mankind should survive. Curiosity is esential for development.

Ahmed from Bahrain
Bahrain
10/09/2008
Big Bang Machine
Humans are curious and it is great. It ahs led us to be where we are today. They also say curiosity killed the cat, but hey fellas, we are not felines! To believe that Big Bang created us through accident is to believe that Hurricane Katrina went thro some junk yard and a perfect jumbo plane come out the other side! Question: Was this intricate universe planned? if so, then who was behind it? Love.

Serge
Canada
10/09/2008
Whats god gotta do with it ?
A citation of Dr. House : Do you think god cares about what you put into your digestive track ? I believe in Donald Duck. It doesn't make it real. People invented god because they're afraid of dying. Bad news : you'll die anyway. Science is the only way to understand reality. We can stop spending money because some people are starving. But the we'll have to go back in cave. Science is not responsible for bad politics and the economic system, totally independant matters that should not be mixed

Frank
United States
11/09/2008
Disprove Existance of God?
If we were ever able to do that and have people believe that was the truth, man this woud be one beautiful world, pretty sure middle east would be more stable and our retarted president (who i didnt vote for) wouldnt be a religious freak!!!! Look around you most of the wars fought are due to religion, we started going down hill as a beings once we devoted ourself to a supreme being you know some dude up there calling all the shots when we die and our born.

Yahya
India
11/09/2008