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Environment

Why My Family Quit Using Plastic

By James Glave, The Tyee. Posted August 13, 2008.


Health concerns about the long-term effects of plastic have led the author's family to keep their food away from plastic containers.
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I said goodbye to a few old friends this morning.

I dropped Sabrina and Duncan at day camp and continued on down the road to my community's recycling depot. There, I walked up to the big green "mixed plastics" bin and tossed in my FridgeSmart stackables, Ziploc Twist n' Locs and, perhaps most painful of all, my beloved half-cup-size Rubbermaid Servin' Savers -- indispensable snack-stashers that fit perfectly inside my kids' lunch boxes.

All these little tubs are now gone, casualties of a recent pact between my wife and me to minimize the amount of time our family's food spends inside plastic containers.

It was a watershed moment for the two of us -- the latest stop in a journey that has begun to wander into territory that I once reserved for a class of people I once referred to as "eco-fruitcakes." It has taken us beyond social norms, outside the fuzzy boundaries of mainstream consumer behavior.

Go ahead and laugh

It's now socially acceptable to forgo plastic bags at the store -- even Ikea is calling them "so last year." But my Servin' Savers purge represents a far more radical act.

I can hear you snickering out there, and I don't blame you. As far as eco-resolutions go, this one is probably both ridiculous and futile. We know that the lion's share of our food -- yogurt, milk, berries, applesauce, nuts, cooking oil, you name it -- is sold to us in plastic packaging. For decades, industry and government scientists have assured us these "food grade" pots, tubs, and sacks are completely benign.

They're lightweight compared to glass -- which means less of a carbon penalty from shipping -- and of course they're recyclable. And as a former Servin' Savers evangelist, I know the convenience is unbeatable.

But here's the thing, Mr. Industry and Ms. Government. I've been struggling with a few trust issues as of late.

BPA blues

You see, when Sabrina and Duncan were infants, we often fed them pumped breast milk that we warmed up inside polycarbonate Philips Avent plastic bottles -- bottles that we recently learned were leaching bisphenol-A, or BPA.

Unless you've been living on Baffin Island for the past six months, you know that's bad news. Earlier this year, Health Canada declared that chemical "toxic" and stated that there is "some concern for neural and behavioral effects in early stages of development" for low levels of exposure.

On its Avent website, Philips today touts a redesigned BPA-free baby bottle that the company assures us it is developing "because we know that needs sometimes change."

Needs do change, yes. So do paradigms. And the thing is, I'm presently undergoing a shift so foreign and clumsy that it feels like puberty all over again. It boils down to this, Philips: I don't trust you anymore. My consumer confidence has plummeted. In fact, it's in the basement.


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James Glave's first book is Almost Green: How I Built an Eco-Shed, Ditched my SUV, Alienated the In-Laws, and Changed My Life Forever (Greystone/Skyhorse) It will be released next month.

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Dozens of industry-funded studies showed zero problems with BPA
Posted by: PaulK on Aug 13, 2008 3:19 AM   
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Of dozens of non-industry-funded studies, every one of them showed human health problems with BPA. The 100% disconnect between industry-funded and independent study results is shocking. It says that we don't have science anymore, just "political science". Watch your sources!

BPA was originally created as an estrogen mimic chemical, and as a side effect they noted that it also made a great plastic. BPA is found in the inner lining of most canned goods. It's really safe if you're a schmuck. It's been linked with 2 year old girls growing breasts. It's been linked with "shrinkage", with the development of small genitals on boys.

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Plastic bowls leach out phthalates = plasticizer chemicals
Posted by: PaulK on Aug 13, 2008 3:32 AM   
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Don't ever microwave in plastic. The heat of 212 degrees Fahrenheit helps leach out the plasticizers into food and water. At home we always microwave on plates or in crockery.

We also drink out of glass bottles. We saw cancer lecturers drinking out of glass bottles five years ago and we followed suit. Frequent washing out of the bottles is recommended. If you must use plastic water bottles, don't ever heat the bottles and don't freeze bottles either.

Ask the clerk, did your store ever let the plastic water bottles sit in a hot truck? "I dunno!"

In general, check the number on the triangle. The worst offender is polyvinyl chloride, #3, followed by a #6 on the bottoms of plastic cups, and #7.

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» Don't microwave - period! Posted by: henderson
» DON'T MICROWAVE Posted by: morrison
Water and Food Stored in Plastic at Room Temperature For Short Periods Is Probably Safe
Posted by: opmoc on Aug 13, 2008 3:55 AM   
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But cooking in plastic - which is positively encouraged in many of todays products - like cook in bag - just put it in the oven for 20 minutes - is simply inviting your food to be corrupted by carcinogens.

Plastic has its uses - like when we go camping we use plastic water containers.

But try tasting water that has been left in a plastic container for months - and you will realise that even at room temperature some of the plastic has leached into the water.

When I was a child, plastic had barely been invented. Nearly everything now delivered in throw away plastic bottles came in glass bottles.

The glass bottles were returned - and not smashed - but cleaned, sterilised and reused.

We still have a traditional milkman who delivers our milk (via an electric float (truck)) in glass pint bottles - that are returned and reused.

Although it is more expensive than supermarket milk - the milk tastes much better. My wife insists on it and can always taste the difference from milk in plastic.

We were far more efficient at recycling 50 years ago and produced far less waste. What went wrong?

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Its Not Just Plastic. Spend a Few Days Researching Aspartame.
Posted by: opmoc on Aug 13, 2008 4:20 AM   
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I was completely shocked - and went through everything in our house. Anything that contained Aspartame went in the bin.

I refuse to buy anyone a "diet" coke.

Sure you will find all sorts of crap on the internet "proving" how safe aspartame is.

Check out Rumsfeld's connection. Here is a very mild taster

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8N0z8stino

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» Thanks for the video . . . Posted by: dustdevil
endocrine disruptors
Posted by: twoten on Aug 13, 2008 5:07 AM   
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If a woman puts weight on her hips and thighs her body is estrogen dominant. If she puts weight on her belly, she's testosterone dominant. Now go out and look, and I mean really seriously LOOK, and see where the majority of young women are putting on their weight. The female brain, when inundated with xeno-estrogen, or alien estrogen, reacts by turning up the testosterone factories. You want your daughter to look, think and act like a man? Probably not.

You've been sucked into believing yet another great lie if you think corporations are doing this for "the bottom line", ie: money. They've already got your money. The psychopathic agenda says: "Poison everything then sell symptomatic relief." Corporations are doing this, politicians are letting them, and the castrated media stays silent because, poisoning the world is beautiful and fun. Fight the psychopathic agenda.

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» RE: endocrine disruptors Posted by: pinnacle
» RE: endocrine disruptors Posted by: Last Chance
» RE: endocrine disruptors Posted by: obliu222
» Great Point Posted by: Gravitas
Plastics not recycled
Posted by: sedort on Aug 13, 2008 5:15 AM   
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Less than 5% of plastics are recycled , steel is near 80%. Instead it is burned in cement kilms . One is near my house . LaFarge cement in Whitehall Pa. Can you imagine the chemicals in our childrens system.

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Nice try Mr. Glave
Posted by: Last Chance on Aug 13, 2008 6:01 AM   
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But you're years too late. Illegal dumping has been going on for so long the oceans are turning into sewers and converting the atmosphere to methane. Breathe deep to get that declining percentage of oxygen!

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So....Marijuana is safer than plastic, too?
Posted by: xxdr_zombiexx on Aug 13, 2008 7:09 AM   
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Unsurprising.

Plastic IS a petroleum product, though once made into a biofuel, cannabis can be used to make plastics too, although that may be unnecessary.

The IMPORTANT thing is that we are expected to believe that marijuana is just endlessly bad for us (not one reefer mad claim can stand real-world scrutiny) and that all our endless consumer goods are totally safe and benign.

People have been trained via generations of high-powered and uncontested propaganda to simply assume that any bad thing about pot is necessarily true because it's "bad", yet it is safer than most of the stuff we buy, have and a lot safer than much of our food.

Marijuana does not have "BPA" in it. No High Fructose Corn Syrup. No particular calories, no cholesterol.

It has some real chemicals in it, for sure, but not like tobacco does.

Marijuana may not be "safe" but it is safer than most of the stuff around us.

And yes, it must necessarily be compared to everything people talk about precisely because we are to believe its supposed be worse than anything else in life.

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And how about putting plastic to reuse and recycling if not renewing?
Posted by: jwverez on Aug 13, 2008 7:26 AM   
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Petroleum manufactured plastic is supposed to last longer beyond our life times and will take a million years to decompose. However, since we're a fucking AMORAL society eager to waste, why not turn to bio-degradable plastic and I ain't talkin' corn. HEMP 4 plastics ! And amazingly, they're just as strong as the petroleum manufactured types.

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creative thinking
Posted by: logic on Aug 13, 2008 7:36 AM   
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People working in the cities in India eat hot homemade lunches every day and have a completely efficient trustworthy system of delivering it. Think creatively. Demand local fresh markets. How much of your own yard is wasted on a lawn (unless you have a cow) and how much water per year is wasted on having the greenest on the block. Try clay containers. There have always been snake oil salesmen. We trust too much and don't think for ourselves enough.

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I gave up a LOT of plastics
Posted by: BlueBerry PickN on Aug 13, 2008 10:12 AM   
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when I moved out on my own in the 80s & realized how much garbage I produced.

then in the early 90s, 60Minutes did an expose on how exo-hormones were causing cell-division in plastic petri dishes of female breast cancer tissue samples....

I'm perpetually astonished that SO MUCH RESEARCH has happened since then... but very little done to protect the Public.

just say'n.

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Thanks for the inspiration !!!
Posted by: Live Gently on Aug 13, 2008 11:15 AM   
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Like you, I too bought into the avent bottles for breastmilk when my daughter was an infant. And after learning that the water bottles we have been using for years - thinking it was 'safe' and 'eco-friendly' - are actually harmful..... My trust is also gone. So thank you for inspiring me to return to using glass and wax paper. Funny, I always used to joke that the invention of Tupperware has caused many of today's problems. Doesn't seem so funny anymore.

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Toxic comment
Posted by: login@bugmenot.com on Aug 13, 2008 1:52 PM   
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It's all bad. Organic stuff, too. Nature is trying to kill us and will someday succeed, if we don't do it first by ourselves. And we probably will.

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» RE: Toxic comment Posted by: obliu222
It makes me wonder
Posted by: EnderDidIt on Aug 13, 2008 4:56 PM   
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I drank water like a horse throughout my pregnancies. During my last pregnancy I used my trusty Nalgene bottle all the time because I thought disposable bottles were worse. Now I find out that Nalgene leaches chemicals. When my son was born with a congenital defect that doctors suspect is due to all the fake estrogen in our environment, all I could think of was my favorite red Nalgene bottle. We have been slowly killing ourselves and the environment and now it's catching up to us.

On a side note. Gladware and all that disposable storageware you find at the supermarket is NOT Tupperware. Tupperware is Tupperware. Just like Megablocks are so not Lego. I guess the point is mute as I am starting to rid my home of all things plastic, but it still is a pet peeve for me.

Cheers.

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personal choices vs. necessity
Posted by: akbirdwm on Aug 13, 2008 5:40 PM   
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I was lucky, I wanted to breast feed my child and because I worked for an Alaskan Tribe, I was able to bring him to work and breast feed at my desk if I wanted to. I realize that many Americans aren't able to breast feed because they can't get maturnity leave and have to pump or use replacements. Not to mention the American culture that somehow makes breast feeding (especially in public, horrors!) not acceptable. This hurts us all socially, physically and monetarily.

While I've weaned the family off of using plastic water bottles and microwaving in plastic, I really just want to get rid of the micro all together. Not only are they a huge waste of energy, but there is significant research to suggest that microwaves seriously deplete the quality of the nutrients in the food. Most of the time, its just as quick to steam it hot.

There's a bunch of different kind of metal containers you can use for storage, though most have plastic lids. If lids don't have direct contact with foods, if they are refrigerated or at room temp, there shouldn't be a leaching problem. There are also newer types of containers being made now out of biodegrable cellulose plastics and recycled cardboard that work for single or a few times use. I like to buy Amy's soups and then reuse the bowl (comes with a lid) for carrying snacks for my son.

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Welcome to the club!
Posted by: scajomar on Aug 13, 2008 7:08 PM   
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Our household, as well, has sworn off plastic, but for another reason: we hate to see it getting into the ecosystem, where it degrades into tiny particles that then leach into the food chain, or just simply NEVER return to the earth. (Read "The World Without Us" about what will happen to the earth when humans cease to exist; plastic will outlast all man-made concoctions by tens of thousands of years.)

In the early 1980s, we decided to stop buying maple "syrup" in plastic bottles. We made our own from cane sugar and maple extract and stored it in the Aunt Jemima bottle we saved from the Reagan era. Still have the bottle. Hell, the label's been gone so long it might have been Log Cabin -- my memory fails me. Also stopped buying ketchup in plastic, bought it in glass and poured it into the Heinz plastic bottle we kept in our fridge since 1988. Think of all the plastic our one family has kept out of the landfill, simply by not buying syrup and ketchup in throw-away plastic containers.

Update: we stopped buying ketchup when we got wise to High Fructose Corn Syrup.

A month ago we stopped buying yogurt in those little plastic containers. We've learned to make our own yogurt in our Crock Pot (heat the milk to 112 degrees, pour in the yogurt culture, turn off the pot, wrap in towels, and next morning voila!) We shop for produce at farmer's markets and return all strawberry baskets, honey jars, egg crates, etc. to the same vendors the following week, and we don't use plastic bags for anything but cleaning up after our dog on his walk. We're investigating plastic bags for this purpose that will break down without sunlight.

As I understand it, use of plastic for food storage is primarily unhealthy only if the food has been heated in the plastic. We still keep food in our "Tupperware" in the fridge; food gets heated up on plates in the microwave and in pans on the stove, never in plastic.

We've stopped buying anything in so-called "clamshell" plastic, which in our part of the world is not recyclable. We look for bulk nuts, fruit, baked goods, which are sold without packaging, and we come prepared with our own containers in which to transport them home.

I'm sure there's more we can do; we still can't afford to buy milk in non-plastic containers, as much as we drink. But the fact remains: the choice to stop using plastic is not just about your personal health — it's about the health of the entire organism we call us: Earth.

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» RE: Welcome to the club! Posted by: spancilhill
Discouraged
Posted by: VH on Aug 15, 2008 3:12 PM   
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After reading your post, I am compelled to write. You are justified in losing faith in science. There are many scientists who have done the same. But in order to feed their families or repay enormous student loans, or because of confidentiality agreements, they keep quiet about what they know. And about what should not be a surprise: science has become the whore of the corporations. Science is no longer objective. And it has only one purpose: profit. Therefore, any valid scientific evidence which undermines a company’s profit margin will be vigorously discredited.

I am a frustrated and discouraged scientist. Thus, I have chosen to leave the field rather than fight it anymore. I now work as a store clerk. Whistleblowers are no longer protected, and corporate execs don’t want to hear a word about…”well this may not be safe.” Not a word.

So how do corporations get away with it? They count on the public being scientifically ignorant. Read that statement again. And again. This is the fundamental problem with our ultra-capitalistic society. How can efficiency reign if scientists are bullied or shunned into collusion with corporations? There is no check and balance anymore. The FDA is useless.

The reason the FDA goes along with the corporations in this case is imagine the panic if the truth regarding plastics-induced endocrine disruption were revealed? Who would shoulder the blame? How would the massive lawsuits be avoided?

The system is fundamentally broken. I am for the European system, where governments protect consumers, rather than corporations. We have lost it here in the US.

Just so everyone also knows, avoid all artificial sweeteners. They massively disrupt insulin levels and cause metabolic syndrome. Of course this will be denied by the corporations. But what have I got to gain or lose by saying this?

You are right to have lost your faith in science. There are so many in and out of the science AND medical community who feel the same way. But we have no voice. We cannot speak freely. And if we do, we are no match for the corporate legal and advertising departments. Are we? These are the darkest of days for science and medicine, in my opinion.

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I was sorry to see the Olympics being a hugely bad example
Posted by: jparsons on Aug 17, 2008 2:19 PM   
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How many plastic bottles are they using...?

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INDUSTRY FINANCED STUDIES SHOWED REPEATEDLY THAT 2 4 D AND 2 4 5 T
Posted by: Raymond Emerson on Aug 18, 2008 3:02 PM   
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were completely harmless. Finally we discovered that it was like Sherlock Holmes said. It was the dog that didn't bark.

The studies were all done with pharmaceutical grade 2 4 D. It was absolutely pure. But when mass produced, fast and furious, and containing all of the impurities of carelessness it contained sizeable amounts of di-oxin. Enough said.

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Just use glass bottles, avoid cans & plastic packaging
Posted by: philosopherdog on Aug 19, 2008 11:52 AM   
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All I do is put stuff in glass bottles. No extra cost, no fancy new plastics from hemp required. Take the bottles out of your recycle bin and re-use them forever! Also, avoid canned food, and anything in plastic, like yogurt shipped in plastic. Buy glass organic instead. I'm writing from Toronto and if you look around you can buy these things for a fraction more than the toxic alternatives. BPA is just the tip of the iceberg. Also, just imagine all of the other junk in your house environment that is potentially causing problems such as all those toxic cleaning products! You know the ones that make your house smell like a pine forest? Avoid it all and save your money. Vinegar and baking soda can clean anything, and they are environmentally benign, and won't compromise your health. Encourage someone else along the way.

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Want to reduce cancer risk? Consider eliminating dairy too...
Posted by: satyagirl on Aug 19, 2008 1:03 PM   
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I agree that plastics should be avoided as much as possible but the author mentions buying milk and yogurt for his family. He'd actually be making a more significant drop in cancer risk by getting off the dairy. Studies not funded by the dairy industry show that the link between breast and prostate cancer and dairy consumption is as strong as the link between lung cancer and cigarette smoking.

Check out The China Study by T. Colin Campbell.

Insulin-like growth factor 1 (IGF-I) is the most powerful growth hormone in the human body and is identical between humans and cows. It's been called a key factor in the growth and proliferation of breast and prostate cancers.

Also, 89% of dairy herds in the United States have cows infected with the bovine leukemia virus.

Check out what professor Jane Plant has to say about it in Your Life in Your Hands and share this information with anyone you know who has cancer or wants to avoid getting it.

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There's Lots You Can Do
Posted by: Liberty G on Aug 19, 2008 1:18 PM   
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We store everything in glass jars, like the ones from peanut butter and honey. (Of course, you need to buy your food in the glass to start with). They are free, infinitely reusable, and keep food very well. I make my own mayonnaise, which uses a tiny bit of fresh lemon juice. One lemon can last for a month or more, after cutting off a segment for the juice. I have great dill weed all year long by shredding the leaves into another small glass jar and putting that in the freezer. I take filtered (at the tap) water everywhere in glass juice bottles.

We can't avoid all toxic chemicals in our quite unhealthy society, but we can easily reduce our exposure to the point where the great human immune system can take over and detox the rest.

For more info on household chems/products of concern, and healthier options, check out the website of my (non-profit)organization, Toxics Information Project (TIP):
www.toxicsinfo.org/basicInfo/ThoughtsOnGoing.htm, www.toxicsinfo.org/TIPS_kids.htm
www.toxicsinfo.org/TIPS_house.htm

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watercolors
Posted by: Watercolors on Aug 19, 2008 7:14 PM   
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Thanks for the wake-up call. Good idea. But what is that waxed paper waxed with? I'm assuming it's petroleum. And if you're burning ordinary candles, you're breathing guess what. We burn candles less frequently as beeswax is quite costly. We no longer buy canned or bottled foods. Our milk comes in plastic lined cartons. Since raw milk products are outlawed in New Zealand, the milk after heating, probably in stainless steel, was most likely sent to cartons in plastic tubing. Our yogurt, from pasteurized bio-dynamic milk, comes in plastic, and was probably pumped through plastic tubing. Our organic bulk grains sit in plastic tubs in the health food store or arrive in plastic from the co-op. Our fish shop now wraps the stuff in plain paper before the outer plastic coated wrap. Worst of all, the best, purest, most delicious, chemical-free ice cream comes in platic tubs. The organic grower at our farmers market now pops produce into our hemp carry bag. It's amazing how much better our nutrition since we cut out all processed foods except for dairy. Who knows? Maybe we'll take another step, find a way to have our own milk goat. Extreme, yes, but don't we love challenges.

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Roberto
Posted by: Roberto on Aug 20, 2008 10:21 PM   
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It's time to dump all petroleum based products used in food storage or prep. Not just plastic containers and bags. Do your family a favor and recycle the non stick pots and pans too (the non stick surface is a petroleum product). Do your family good and buy stainless or cast iron pots and pans. Cast iron skillets are virtually non stick once seasoned and used at correct cooking temps.
As far as trusting industry and government forget it. Remember all the healthful claims for margarine? Turns out hydrogenated oils and trans fats used in margarine are not a food and do not digest. Use butter or a substitute with no trans fats or hydrogenated oil. A lot of this is common sense if people would just think about it and read the labels.

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